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about is where we solve this fiscal cliff by creating another fiscal cliff down the road is totally immature. it lacks political courage. we know what needs to be done, and let's get it done over the next three weeks. the options are not going to change. >> would you call on your party not to mount that sort of opposition to the president if he specifies how he's going to restructure medicare? >> i think that both -- look, i have laid out in great detail very painful cuts to medicare. i just did it in a 242-page bill that i have shared with the white house, shared with boehner, shared with mcconnell, in order to move us beyond this silly debate that's taking place. the fact is, claire knows this and i know this. there are serious reforms that have to take place in medicare for our country to become solvent. >> well, we have to be careful. and you're right about this, david. what is really irresponsible, that $716 billion, that was low-hanging fruit. that was fluff in the medicare system, savings that we had to recover. and by the way, it's the same savings that was in the ryan plan.
? >> i think this whole fiscal cliff language is designed to maximize a sense of fear that's nonsense. the very same people, the congress and president, who invented the fiscal cliff -- this is all an invention -- could break it down into 12 foothills. there are 15 foothills, or 20 foothills. they could tackle one problem at the time. i agree with what i understand senator jeff sessions has said, and i think he'll be on your show later, this ought to be out in the open. we're rushing toward a secret deal made in secret meetings where nobody will know what's going on, and then people will be told, boy, if you don't vote for this, we'll go over the cliff. well, i think there are a lot worse things than going over a man-made cliff that i think is entirely artificial. i think the reality is the president of the united states has not come forward with any serious spending cuts. what the democrats are proposing is to take the tax increase now and then sometime next year eventually possibly we might have some kind of entitlement reform. that's a bad deal for the american people. >> greta: i
on on capitol hill over the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary timothy geithner sitting down with the top leaders in congress and in the senate, they are discussing what needs to be done to reduce the deficit and maybe how much flexibility there could be on either side. the deal is to avoid a series of tax increases, and spending cuts that many believe would be a fiscal cliff that would kick in on january the 1st. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is watching it all unfold on capitol hill. what do we know about the visit about the expectations for what might happen during it. >> reporter: martha, timothy geithner arrived here on capitol hill a short time ago to meet first with senate majority leader harry reid. we know he's having individual meetings with the top four leaders of congress. what republicans have said they want to hear, and republicans will be critical, because they need republican support to get any final fiscal cliff deal through the senate, and also through the house, they say they hope that he's coming with concrete spending cut ideas that are acceptable to the admi
that are going back and forth as we count down to the fiscal cliff here. joining me now from new orleans is melissa harris perry. you got to hear all that. so first off, he regarded the conversation that he had with the president last night as a very nice conversation, direct and straightforward. it's been reported throughout the morning that it was more of a curt conversation. but it seems as if with the president going into this discussion, he holds all the cards and all the lemverage, bu it doesn't seem john boehner is willing to meet in the middle here. he said i'm not going to get into the details. why not tell us the details what have they want? >> i think because of what you just said. because as a matter of politics in fact hold the cards here. it's more than just sort that he has the ability to go over the fiscal cliff, allow sort of the 113th congress to convene. that congress will certainly continue to have a republican majority but also a greater influence of the democratic party, and a lesser influence of the tea party coalition within the republican party, and once that 113
cliff. like i said, it went down in the early going but ended up surging up 107 to almost 13,000. and one analyst put it markets are starting to lean toward some sort of agreement. meanwhile the fed reports that a rise in consumer spending and really steady home sales helped boost economic growth from october through early november in most of the country. the exception being the northeast in the wake of super storm sandy. the fox business network peter barnes with the news from the when you say tonight. what else do not feds see in the economy, peter. empleghts overall the feds saw the economy growing at a measured pace in recent weeks but it said that some business context said that they were worried about uncertainty over the battle of the fiscal cliff in washington. that concern might be showing up in the manufacturing sector. the feds said that in some places around the country, manufacturing was slowing down and actually contracting outright. but it said that hiring was up modestly most places and with the holidays coming up. it said that the outlook for retail sales was
in the house, they'll have to pass it staring down the fiscal cliff. >> but here's the thing. both sides acknowledge that you're not going to get a deal done without some sort of change to entitlements. specifically medicare. >> well, i'm not so sure what that means when you say it's some sort of change. some sort of structural change to medicare? i'm not sure that has to be on the table. i do think, though, that we do have to have some spending cuts and the president has acknowledged that, as well. but the basis of the problem is you have to have -- the republican party is intransigent about the idea of tax increases and the taxes will grow up after december 31st regardless of what happens. if you don't do anything, they'll go up. so you have to do something. you'll have 98% of the american people who will get a tax cut under president obama's proposal, 97% of american small businesses will get a tax cut. so why not come to a negotiated deal on the things that we agree on and put aside the other things. we don't thesely have to agree on those 2%. let's work on where there is some sort o
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the so-called fiscal cliff, but as the clock ticks down to mandatory spending cuts and tax hikes, negotiations to reach a deal look like they are at a standstill. and now, live to washington with the latest. steve? >> that deadline for action could be fast approaching but the two sides do not appear to be in a hurry, instead of negotiating a deal the players spent their unsunday in -- sundy taking their views to the public. speaker boehner appeared on fox news sunday expressing his surprise when geithner laid out the white house plan of action, calling for a new revenue and stimulus spending. >> i was flabbergasted. i have never seen anything like it. we have several weeks between election day and the end of the year and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> for his part, secretary geithner saying the ball is new in the g.o.p.'s court and he says the administration is ready to move forward if republicans agree to raise taxes on wealthy americans and specify their own demands for reducing government spending and he defended the plan that speaker boehner says
at an impasse, is it better to go off the fiscal cliff or let congress kick the can down the road and face the same kind of economic hand wringing a year or two from now? the president of the conservative group freedom works joins me now. i know you're in a big conference. there is an interesting coalition, if you will, of very conservative deficit hawks and very liberal deficit hawks, if you will, who might come together and say, you know what, let the country go off the cliff. lack at those five-year projections. isn't this about short term versus long term? what do you say and what do you think your members would say? >> the best thing is to do something our spending problem and barring anything else, doing the automatic cuts that congress promised last year when they raised the debt ceiling would be better than doing nothing. it's separate from the ougautomc tax increase that happens on january 1. our preferred strategy here would be to accept the sequester now knowing that congress is not going to do something more rational. they're not going to take on more fundamental spending refor
the fiscal cliff. >> and whether you can back down after that you have been so aaggressive against you. stay tuned. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show online. tamron has as a look at what's next on "news nation." >> great to see you. in the next hour, twitter time with the president. the white house just confirmed president obama will be answering questions on twitter regarding the fiscal cliff orifior fiscal stalemate. we'll get a live report how it works. can he get the ball rolling? congressman karen bass and conk man chris van hollen will join me to talk about where things stand. bob costas bold statement on gun control in the wake of the suicide involving javon belcher. we'll have reaction to it the. john mccain's interesting comment to john kerry at an event that took place a few hours ago. we'll play the exchange, reading any tea leaves. [ designer ] enough of just covering up my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel m
yesterday that spending cuts should be part of these fiscal cliff talks. where it may break down on the part about whether the president will push democrats on capitol hill to go along. it was tuesday that dick durbin said spending cuts, medicare cuts, ets, should not be part of these fiscal cliff cuts. we'll see whether durbin and others on the hill go along with what jay carney is saying. we'll see if that improves the possibility of a deal. megyn: we have 33 democratic lawmakers saying we are not touching social security now or for the future. this jackhammer is really rude. >> reporter: the cuts are being made as we speak. it's hard to cut the government. megyn: alert frank, the two guys features in your first report. someone else came to the white house hat must have been an extraordinary moment. mitt romney and obama get together. for me it's awkward that they had the meeting at the white house. was that mean? shouldn't they have don't at a tgif. neutral ground? not to rub his nose in the place that he wanted to live. >> reporter: given romney's finances, -- he came here, he left witho
're learning more about the white house plan to deal with the fiscal cliff. break it down for us. >> reporter: right. this is the plan that secretary -- treasury secretary timothy geithner took up to capitol hill yesterday. it calls for $1.6 trillion in tax increases over a ten-year period more than republicans had anticipated. in addition to that, $400 billion in spending cuts that will come later. much of that not really specified. we're looking at entitlements such as medicare. and then the plan also includes $50 billion in stimulus spending. democrats see this really as sort of the opening salvo in these negotiations. early on in this process, both sides appear to show some level of optimism that this would get done. in the last few days and certainly yesterday it just seems like both sides are so far apart, it's not unusual for us to see this kind of posturing and other negotiations, tough negotiations over the last four years or so. you'll see things build up whether it appears that it's going to get done. then they fall apart. in the end it does happen. the hope is that that would happ
it while it's hot. >> john baker on your facebook page said it's not a fiscal cliff. it's more like a fiscal tumble down a freshly laundered hand towels. >> stephanie: let's do it. sound fun. let's go to lisa in illinois. >> caller: i think we should go over the cliff because we really have nothing to lose. and mcconnell is like a dinosaur. >> stephanie: more like a galapagos island turtle which is very old. >> caller: and saying victory lap. you know how exciting it would be? people would love to see the president come to town. they look so happy. nobody in their line look happy. everybody holding signs they're not smiling. they look like they're paid to be there. they really do. >> stephanie: well, many of them were, all right. >> and some of them are disappointed tea partyers like the person we talked to earlier. >> stephanie: john boner i i am mature. >> victory lap so popular. hate it. >> stephanie: here is the boner. >> sound byte: despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending. >> they're not serio
stand tall. if we go over the fiscal cliff, let's do it. no sense kicking the can down the line. lou: did you ever see that movie , dr. strange love and slim pickens? he gets on the bomb and they're dropping it over the soviet union. he hopped. toyota tell. anyway. we are sure union members would agree that raising middle-class taxes by $2,000 per year is not a perfect solution. also raising taxes on the top 2% covers just a little over eight days a federal government expenses, but that is okay. good news for new york city in the midst of all of this. not a single person was reported shot, stabbed or slashed. police officials said they cannot remember the last time that happened. the murder rate is been so low in new york city at the city is on track to record 00 murders this year. the fewest in half a century. a sharp contrast of the foreigners 62 murders so far in chicago. one-third the size of new york. the math is pretty straightforward. and the hits just keep coming for the environmental protection agency. temporarily banning the oil giant from bidding on new contracts with the
that the president does on spending cuts within the budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> can you also look in the camera and say dear democrats, both for and include some of the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. because that's not what they're doing right now. should they include this? >> yes, and i know that democrats except that this has to be a balanced package that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> yet months ago, that was voted down 99 to zero. earlier this week, the number two democrat in the senate, dick durbin, insisted major spending cuts and entitlement reform will not be part of these talks. nancy pelosi has been noncommittal about whether cuts will be in the deal. still, they are trying to breathe into the talks with vice president biden shopping avenue costco in washington, picking up a big-screen tv and an apple pie and insisting he is optimistic of the deal. >> i am. all these folks in the store. they are going to make a difference. reporter: a phone call last night between speaker boehner and the president was very curt. it signa
weeks because he does not think the proposal to avoid a fiscal cliff is serious one. negotiations here are nowhere. another republican, senator lindsey graham thinks he thinks things are heading down hill. >> i think we are going over the cliff. it's clear to me they made a political calculation. the offer doesn't deal with the entitlement reform to save the medicare and medicaid and social security from imminent bankruptcy. it raises $1.6 trillion on job creators to destroy the economy. no spending controls. >> reporter: treasuresy secretary tim geithner advocated for clinton era tax rates and wants top earns to pay 39.6%. he said when that was the rate in the '90s there was was good economic growth and strong private investment. said republicans would rather raise revenue closing the loophole and limiting deduction need the time to realize that might not bring in enough cash. >> that is a good set of propose is and good for the economy. if they have suggestions, they want to go further, lay it out to us. >> secretary geithner said he cannot promise we won't go off the fiscal cliff. s
previously and not only the fiscal cliff but the susan rice. send her down there. send the cia down there. we are not moving and we are not going to let yougo get away with villinizing our administration a new obama going into the next 4iers. i am hoping we will see a lot more progressive reforms because of it. >> i hope you are right, too. we talked about this. something i want to get to at the top of the hour. obama has every reason right? to feel the power and exercise the power. every day -- i mean he won. okay? he won on november 6th, the popular vote the electoral vote overwhelmingly but i didn't realize there are still millions of votes still uncounted and every day, his margin keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. he is now a 51%, and romney is at 47%. there is something magic about the 47%. right? >> beautifully reviewed up. it's so good >> bill: the fact he ends up part of the 47%. obama, 51%. he beat romney by more than george bush beat john kerry in 2004. >> that's a solid, solid victory. he has a mandate. >> i think he definitely has
to a f fiscal cliff deal. what's the latest and is this posturing, kelly, or is this real? i mean, is this disagreement about kind of laying out the stakes of where everybody stands and what they're willing to give or is it a possibility that we don't get a deal? >> reporter: well, you do hear rumblings, chris, about no deal. but at the same time people are saying there's still some negotiating time left and a bit of optimism. when you heard the tone of what was unfolding yesterday, it was kind of shocking to republicans who would say that the president's offer is so far from a negotiating point that they are surprised not so much that these are the positions that we're in because much has been the president's public rhetoric but in terms of real negotiating they say they were surprised this wasn't the kind of offer that would have happened some weeks ago, meaning right after the election if you want to start there. but now with just four weeks to go they felt the president needed to move further. democrats believe these are the priorities that voters reinforced with their ballots
of the fiscal cliff discussions and sat down for lunch with former rival mitt romney. >> i am sure they will or have already compared experiences on the campaign trail. >> today president obama hits the road to push for his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. but republicans have slammed him for campaign-style politics that they say just won't get the job done. rob and sunny, back to you. >> can you really imagine that they're not going to reach some sort of deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? i mean that would be so unpopular across the nation. >> you would -- if you can take an action that would solve the problem for 98% of the country and then come back to the debate about the wealthiest 2%, let's get that first chunk done. republicans fear they could lose leverage if they cave in on the middle-class issue. apparently the president, his team has made increased demand here including, a provision now, part of the negotiations where, the congressional control over the debt limit would go away. and congress does not like to have its power take any way. so maybe the white house, upped the an
. sheville a lot of question, should she be nominated. let me turn to the fiscal cliff. the edge of that is so close to us, are we going to go over it? what will it take to reach a deal? former [speaking spanish] newt gingrich said, it takes sitting down and talking face to face. >> if they wanted to sit and really talk, you can get a lot done. but i always remind people, clinton had been governor. as governor, he had spent years negotiating with legislatures. so when we took control of the congress, we sort of got the dance. he and i spent i think 35 days face to face. it wasn't that my staff will meet with your staff and eventually, we will have a brief phone call. that's nonsense. you have to be in a room. have you to listen to each other. >> so, where's president obama today? well, he was not in washington. he was at a toy factory in pennsylvania. to many, he seems to be back on the campaign trail, campaigning for fiscal ideas. governor palin, speaker gingrich, who has battled with president clinton, said you have to sit down face to face. this is being outsourced. how should
point it will come down to either fiscal cliff or we're going to have to make a deal, are you willing to go over the fiscal cliff or not have changes to medicare and medicaid? >> every single poll i have seen says do not cut social security or medicare and do away with corporate loopholes and ask the wealthy to start paying their fair share of taxes and look at excessive military spending. and, by the way, let's not forget, we have already in the last three years cut approximately $1.5 trillion in programs. this is not a hard, this is not a fiscal debate. this is a political debate, ceos from wall street, big money interest are there to protect their interests. they could care less about working class people and some of us want to defend the middle class. >> if nothing is done by congress, by now and the end of december, everyone's taxes are going to go up. >> that's why we've got to do something and that's why the republicans have to do exactly what we did in the senate which is to say we have to protect the bottom 98% of the american people. no tax increases at all. continue the tax
down the days to christmas. mom and dad, to count down the days until the fiscal cliff until we fall off of it in 30-days. in legislative language they have two weeks to carve out a deal. republicans or democrats miles apart. >> two weeks because they take christmas off. congress does. >> starting the 149. -- 14th. >> they got canceled. >> congress never really shied away from vacation time. they get on planes and get out there. president obama is blaming the republicans for this stalled proposal right now. listen to the president. >> if congress does nothing eerie familiar -- every family will see income taxes go up at the beginning of next year. a typical middle class family of four will see income taxes rise by $2,200. it's unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts in hostage because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the wealthiest americans. >> congressman ted o says he finds the president's suggestion to congress basically laughable, because the president, you will remember during the campaign the 800 billion number was thrown around for new
the fiscal cliff, almost every major negotiation and battle as come down to president obama and house speaker john boehner. do you think it helps or hurts that key lawmakers like yourself seem to be left out of this deal making? >> well, i'm in constant consultation with secretary geithner, with the white house, and meeting with congress, and the chairman of the house, meet with reed very off. there's a lot of conversations going on where i gave my views, and learn, and so there are more people involved. >> now this is really coming down to, as is no surprise, the issue of tax rates, will republicans agree to raising tax rates on the wealthy as president obama made clear. are you willing to go over the fiscal cliff if republicans do not agree that that? >> i think if there is no agreement whatsoever, the president has probably no choice but to say, okay, we're going to go over the cliff. that would no be my first preference. my first preference is that as we get closer to the cliff, that we find an agreement that makes some sense, so we don't have to go over it. if we don't go over,'re enteri
to look at the focus of the fiscal cliff debate. they would bear the blame if we do go over the edge. the president sat down with bloomberg news yesterday to talk about this. he said he might be willing to budge on some things but tax rates on the wealthy must go up. republicans should agree to raise them he says now and trust them that spending cuts will go away. >> let's put a down payment on taxes let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. >> they have heard these problems before any deal must tackle entitlements such as medicare and social security to put them on a sustainable path. vice presidential candidate and budget chairman paul ryan says the overall thinking has to change. >> the problem they are the same. but the old ways won't do. we need new thinking and renewed efforts from all americans. look, it is true that president obama won reelection. i congratulate him on his victory. but on january 20th, he will face a stagnant economy and a fiscal mess. you might even say he will inherit these problems. >> this has become a public relations issue, too. yesterday the
and a lot of people down in washington saying they don't want to go off the fiscal cliff. as far as grover norquist notices, i don't think republicans should be caving to a special interest of one, frankly. we do see some brave republicans coming out there and they should be supported because they are about finding a solution. >> i want to show this tomb the president playing golf with former president bill clinton. how much do you think fiscal cliff was coming up during their golf rounds? >> i'm sure they talked about it because president clinton is a political wonk. what bill clinton showed during his presidency is that there's a way to show common ground with republicans who hate you. they impeached bill clinton but made a deal. they made a deal that was nor the right of where most democrats are. this president has a unique opportunity to make a deal for more towards his left. remember dick cheney said to -- speaking of sequels. remember when dick cheney said you got the high approval ratings you can spend them on the iraq war. republicans what they want is the president to spend some o
's extend the fiscal cliff for six months and then get serious. nobody seems to want to do that. everybody wants at least a down payment, at least an agreement on the outlines of a tax program and a program on spending and then maybe they would give it more time to finish. >> we're still kicking the can down the road. you're absolutely right. you're going to get a short. term, let's get through the first quarter of 2013-type solution. but the reality of dealing with this economy, its debt, it's deficit, spending priorities and all of that is not going to get done in the next five weeks. so let's be honest about that. i agree with you. i think that they're going to come to a short-term stopgap solution that deals with the cliff, that deals with the bush tax cuts that expire, that deal with the increase in unemployment rate that's due to hit in january. they'll deal with those short-term things, but the long-term systemic substantive points that need to be addressed will not get addressed in the next four weeks. >> steve, how would you markets respond if they decide we'll have a short-term f
and negotiators sort of sit down and workout some of the road bumps here to avert the fiscal cliff. and they don't see campaign rallies, or campaign maneuvers as the way to do that. that being said i think the white house has set out its course here. i think you'll see something a lot different in the fiscal cliff negotiations from the white house than you saw in say the government shut down negotiations a year ago. you are going to see a much more campaigning, much more campaign-like president obama in the next month. jon: you know, some sort of even partial -- neutral observers are saying that the obama campaign won in part because they did a much better job of harnessing the power of social media in this election and driving their voters to the polls. if that succeeded for them in the election, can they do it when it comes to governing? can they make the country, you know, embrace tax increases, for instance. >> yeah it's a huge question. i think there are folks who think that it can work the same way. there are a lot of others who really question whether or not those sorts of tactics, and, y
officials trading insults, playing the blame game here as the clock is winding down on the fiscal cliff. keep in mind time is a-wasting. in 32 days now tax rates soar, spending gets slashed. oh, and don't forget, congress, yeah, they get to take a break for the holidays in 14 days. a recipe for recession. the president is pitching a plan that calls for $1.6 trillion in tax heights and $50 billion in new infrastructure spending. he'll head to a manufacturing plant in pennsylvania to push all this. republicans aren't buying in. listen to house speaker john boehner's reaction. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> didn't take very long for democrats to hit back at speaker boehner. senate majority leader harry reid got up, a little personal. >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. >> i don't understand his brain. let's go to washington this morning. wow, just when we thought they were getting closer seems like they're even farther apart this morning. >> yeah, you know, the nic
backlash from his own party over the fiscal cliff proposal that he made with some saying it doesn't go far enough to fix the deficit. we'll break down what this means for negotiations ahead with our morning joe panel. but up next -- you never know who you'll see on a new york city subway. and for one kindly old lady, she literally did not know who she was seeing and sitting next to. we'll play her full conversation with jay-z when "way too early" comes right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have
to go over the fiscal cliff. that's crazy for our country. let's get these as i said extend the tax cuts for those under $250,000. let's agree on a down payment. let's get not only the predictability on the tax code for 98% of americans but also get the automatic across the board cuts off the table for next year. then allow our committees to go to work to bring in the additional savings that we need. i think we can get that blueprint done in the next couple of weeks. >> do you believe that, sir? because have you talked to your republican colleagues in the senate? i mean, do they have a point at which they believe is their we can't pass we cannot cross this line? do you think you're able to meet at least in the senate? >> i think so. i really do believe that the majority of the members of the senate want to get this done, want to get it done now. they want to get predictability to the 98% of taxpayers on their tax rates come january 1st. they want to get these across the board sequestration cuts off the table. they want to make a down payment on the debt. they believe we can get it done.
jobless claims which have some sandy issues involved or the fiscal cliff talks? >> definitely the fiscal cliff. what you were talking about yesterday, boehner's comments really turned things around for the markets, all this sense of optimism all of a sudden. we saw the markets go from down triple digits for the dow up to triple digits. we haven't seen a swing like that since over a year ago. it's been october of 2011 was the last time it happened. it's definitely the fiscal cliff driving things. we heard commentary from lloyd blankfein, between that and the lead story -- one of the top stories on the front page of the "wall street journal" suggesting the president is flexible on the tax hikes, that sounds like a deal might get done. you see a gain of 50 or 60 points. gdp up 2.7% from 2%. there was concerning things when you dig into the numbers, it's all fiscal cliff all the time here, chuck. >> oh, hopefully, as you guys say, it will all -- people will rise above, right, becky? >> that's right. >> i know. i see the button. up next, we're taking a deep dive into the u.s. relationship wit
priority should be jobs and growth instead of cutting spending. let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. ♪ now, that's cardworthy. [ man ] all right. here we go. ♪ cardworthy. [ camera shutter clicks ] cardworthy. ♪ so not cardworthy. ♪ [ female announcer ] go to shutterfly.com for all your cardworthy moments and now get up to 40% off. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." kevin mccarthy has a movie night. he will be hosting a screening of the movie "lincoln" steven spielberg's portrayal of the republican party's most honored president. last year during the debt ceiling debate on capitol hill, mccarthy tried to rally republicans behind john boehner's plan with this clip from the town. >> i need your help. i can't tell you what it is. you can never ask me about it later. we are going to hurt some people. >> whose car are we going
interview with house speaker john boehner on the fiscal cliff negotiations. chris will talk to tim geithner. a "fox news sunday" you do not want to miss. check your local listings. consumer spending was down .2 of a percentage point in october. the dow finished ahead. the nasdaq lost two. europe's economy remains in the tank. 17 euro zone countries have a combined unemployment rate of 11.7%. that is the highest since the introduction of the common currency in 1999. 18.7 million people are out of work for the euro zone. pain and greece have jobless rates of more than 25%. back at home, the question of who will be the nation's top diplomat in president obama's second term continues to intersect with complaints about how the administration handled the libya terror attack. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge with the continuing saga of what susan rice knew and when she knew it. >> since it's classified briefing on capitol hill two weeks ago, lawmakers stressed that ambassador susan rice had asked for the unclassified intelligence on the benghazi attack, including the controversi
both hint that a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff is on the way. possibly in time for santa. i asked republican john cornyn whether he thinks that is a reality. >>> and governor romney sits down with the president since the election, actually since the debates. does this do either of them any good? rick santorum is out front. and julian assange is out front to answer critics and our questions tonight. let's go "out front." >>> good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett, outfront tonight, an early christmas miracle. or at least the glimmer of one today. barack obama bringing glad ti tidings of great joy to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> i will go anywhere and do anything it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> and john boehner, not to be outdone, put a little early present under the tree too. >> i'm optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis and sooner rather than later. >> these are pretty glum faces to deliver those presents. no smile from either one of them. but investors didn't care, they're excited about the present,
there to think congress will be able to come to some sort of resolution. congress designed the fiscal cliff. i think probably senator thune from south dakota is making the most sense last night saying maybe we should kick the can down the road for six months instead of trying to rush it i'm not a fan of kicking the can down the road, that's what congress does. in this case, you have everyone scrambling, trying to examine the ramifications of the election. you have new people coming in. some of the people voting were thrown out of congress. why not wait until the 1st of the year. >> kicking the can, you look at markets today. you have global markets up. stock futures are up. the stock market was up yesterday because this whole idea of optimism from john boehner and the president that this could get done by the end of the year is something the world wants to see. you look at our polling. our polling shows, and the most recent poll from abc news/"washington post," 60% of people support raising tacks on incomes over $250,000 per year. isn't the argument of kicking the can down the road losing some
. now to the fiscal cliff. the edge of that is so close to us. are we going over it? what will take to reach a deal? newt gingrich says it takes sitting down and talking face-to-face. >> if they wanted to sit and really talk, -- i always remind people, clinton had been governor, he years negotiating with legislatures. when we took control of the congress, we sort of got the dance. he and i spent 35 days face-to-face, it wasn't this my staff will meet with your staff and we'll have a brief call. nonsense. you have to be in a room. you have to listen to each other. >> greta: where is president obama today? he was not in washington. he was at a toy factory in pennsylvania. to many he seems to be back on the campaign trail, campaigning for his fiscal ideas. governor palin, speaker gingrich who has battled with president clinton on big issues says you have to sit down in the same room, this is being outsourced. how do we get these parties to talk? >> speaker gingrich knew then as he knows now, the house of representatives has great power because they hold the purse springs they can unfun
discussion of the fiscal cliff, given that is what lawmakers are talking about now. mitt romney just arrived here. we're not expecting anything huge to come out of this meeting. no appointment. for example, to the cabinet. but the president certainly, i think, hoping to engage in a serious conversation. this, as you point out, will be just the seventh time that these two have sat down after what was really a bruising fight during the election. this is really about sort of striking a tone of bipartisanship, helping these two former rivals to bury the hatchet but helping, i think the country to move forward, especially as we get closer to that fiscal cliff deadline. >> and ruth is here at the table. one of the issues could be the sort of backdrop the post-election comment by all sides not only mitt romney but also by stewart stevenson, op-ed his adviser. there was a time not long ago when the problems of the democratic party revolved arounding too liberal and dependent on minorities. obama turned those problems in advantages and rode that strategy to victory but he was a charismatic african-am
't want to be a kid again, but washington, you have real work to do. a looming fiscal cliff and what are we hearing? as republican senator jeff sessions says -- >> a lot of flimflam. >> flimflam. we told you last night that treasure secretary tim geithner hop-scotched his way down pennsylvania avenue to bring the president's proposal from the white house to capitol hill and instead of offering compromise, he leapt to the extreme. in case you forgot, here's what his plan does. his plan taxes $1.6 trillion of taxes. higher tax rates on people, families making more than $250,000 as well as closing loopholes, limiting deductions, raising the estate tax rate and increasing the taxes on capital gains and dividends. and the plan spends nearly $200 billion. another stimulus package of 50 billion. an extension of unemployment insurance benefits estimated around $30 billion and an extension of the payroll tax cut estimated at about $114 billion. but the geithner plan didn't cut spending. in return for all of that, the president offered $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlement pro
tonight when we come back. the obama administration's fiscal cliff is apparently hysterically bad, but senator mitch mcconnell burst into laughter upon hearing this. we'll sort through the plan. plus a lesson from president ronald reagan on why republicans should be hesitant to take the president and the democrats at their word when it comes to any deal. and why is dianne feinstein exploring of possibility of housing gitmo terrorists in a neighborhood near you? we'll examine the likelihood of this nutty proposal. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small busins earns 2% cash back on every purchase, ery day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she
and growth instead of cutting spending. let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." kevin mccarthy has a movie night. he will be hosting a screening of the movie "lincoln" steven spielberg's portrayal of the republican party's most honored president. last year during the debt ceiling debate on capitol hill, mccarthy tried to rally republicans behind john boehner's pla
else that republicans are worried about, not 92 but 1994 when the government shut down, newt gingrich was blamed. >> trust me, you talk to republicans, no matter how this shakes off, if we go over the fiscal cliff, we are to blame. i hear that over and over. something to what tom said, it's an amazing notion that a just-elected democrat president is necessary to make permanent the bush tax cuts. they were tax rate cuts across the board. the idea that most of them could be made permanent -- bush couldn't have gotten that done in 2004 after being re-elected. i do think that republicans should take a victory lap in that regard. >> it is really politically smart to do this. you know, but it's also particularly smart to cut the knees out from under grover norquist. who is he? he's an unelected -- >> it's not him. >> he represents something that's real. he represents something that's real. >> i think everybody recognizes to get these numbers to work you have to have revenue increases. the question is, do you need tax rate increases or not? i think it's very tough to make the math work. >> h
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